PETER SLEVIN:

I think there was a fundamental tension growing up, something that she experienced in her household, which was not at all uncommon, that, on the one hand, she learned that the deck was stacked a little bit, that there was a great deal of inequality.

But that very same grandfather who didn't become a bank president or, as his relatives called him, professor, he worked in the post office, he said, you know, Michelle, your destiny is not determined on the day you're born. Get on with it, get an education, everything is possible. She heard that from her parents, too.

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